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Contents

Recording the Green Album - 12/00 - 2/01

The Green Album was recorded At Cello Studios in Los Angeles, which used to be a part of Western Studios, where many albums were cut for artists in the 60's such as Frank Sinatra (1969's "Cycles"), the Mamas and The Papas and the Beach Boys, who recorded their masterpiece Pet Sounds there. The basic tracks were recorded to 2" 24 track analog tape, which was a challenge in today's day and age. the drums alone were miked up with over 10 microphones, each of which required a separate track. When one factors in the tracks required for bass guitar, rhythm guitar (often doubled in stereo or even tripled with a center track as well, lead guitar (also often doubled), guitar solos, and vocals, which generally required at least 3 tracks, it got pretty tight when it came time to add a spontaneous alternate guitar idea, or alternate vocal melody.

(information as to what instruments and gear was used in the recording process is slated to be added to the "Equipment History" pages as soon as possible.)

Anyway, over 20 master 2" reels were filled with various "takes" through out late December through the first 2 weeks of January. In some cases as many as 5 or 6 master takes were saved of a song, each representing a run through by the whole band of a song, that was deemed good enough to save. These run throughs were primarily for getting a perfect take of the drums, and where possible the bass guitar as well. Lead and rhythm guitars and Rivers's vocals were in there as well, but these parts were generally regarded as scratch takes - just there to fill out the sound as the band played the song as a whole. Later the guitars and vocals (and depending on the song, the bass) would be re-taped, using up free tracks until there wasnt enough to spare. Then, assuming they had gotten better takes of the bass and guitars, the original scratch tracks would be considered fair game for taping over with other things like the final vocals and such.

Over the course of the recording, the assistant engineer would make DAT tapes of whatever was done that day, as safety back-ups and for reference. From these a "daily CD" was created by Karl, which was burned in whatever running order was popular that day, and each rough cd would range (as the recording went on) from songs that were in a very rough state to songs that had had a lot more work don't to them. The effect of listening to the CDs could be rather odd, as a polished sounding song would often lead into a rough instrumental of the next track.

While recording was going on, Rivers was still writing, so in-studio demos would also be recorded, such as for "I Do". Also, Karl was sometimes instructed to do a rough edit of an in-process song on his computer, to help determine what it would sound like with or without a certain verse or solo or whatever. So these versions started to pile up as well.

As the process went on this way, various early or rejected versions of the songs in progress would thus be preserved on the daily CDs. At the end of the recording process, Karl made a "best of the early versions" set of CDs, and destroyed the original "Daily CDs" (this wasn't ruining anything, as the masters were also on DATs and the 24 track tape. The concern was over the large amount of extra rough mix cds that started to pile up, and the possibility that one of them could slip out of the studio in the wrong pocket). The list below is drawn from this info, and represents every song that was worked on in this period, regardless of whether it actually got finished or made it to the album or whatever.

While mixing the album in Miami Beach, additional recording work was done by "dumping" all 24 analog tracks of a song from L.A. into the Pro Tools computer based recording system, and with the unlimited additional space available in the digital realm, various last minute additional tracks were added as needed to try out small guitar touches, additional tries at getting the vocals better, or whatever was deemed necessary. When the song was truly finished in the recording phase, the digital tracks were all "flown" back down the hall via some really thick cables, back into Tom Lord-Alge's mixing desk, where he'd break it down and get to work. Often a song was completed late one night in the recording room, and a few hours later in the morning, Tom would show up and start work on the mix over in his mixing room. It was a hectic pace to say the least! The end result of the work in Miami was a pile of 1/2" digital mixdown tapes on reels.

Compounding the sense of urgency was the upcoming Outloud Tour, which was starting by hell or high water on Feb 21st 2001.

After Miami, the tapes went back to L.A. for mastering, the final process wherein the songs are put in order and given an overall E.Q. and such, so they sound cohesive as an album. However, during the short period between Miami and the start of the Outloud Tour, Rivers made a number of last minute changes and decisions, prompting work in some other L.A. studios to add touches here and there, and edit some songs, as well as do some B-side work. The mastering was re-done several times, even during the Outloud Tour. All during that tour and right up to the start of the following Japan tour, Rivers was listening to fed-exed in mixes, masterings and album sequences. In the end it wasnt over until well after the Outloud Tour was over, almost at the point when the band boarded the plane to Japan for the April tour. In the short period in L.A. before the Japan Tour started, Several more B-sides were polished up, and the running order and song choices of the album were finally made final.

During the process of mastering, somewhere in April 2001, (when some songs were in fact still being edited and having last second mix fixes done), someone at a mastering studio thought he had the new weezer album and stole unfinished, incorrectly mastered copies of many of the soon to be released tracks, plus some tracks that were slated for b-side status. These tracks made it out as mp3s and were announced as "the new album", when in fact the order was wrong, the mixes were wrong, the mastering was wrong, and even what tracks that were included was wrong. It was a classic example of how difficult it was to keep an album under wraps in todays age of digital propagation and outright piracy, and led to a lot of unnecessary confusion. (the actual sessions were confusing enough as it was! In fact the wrong edit of "Always" even ended up on the UK single months later, due to some mislabelled masters.)


The Green Album: All Attempted Tracks
song date started(Cello Studios, LA) made it to Miami for mixing
(some got more recording) 		Finished in Miami worked on later (but not finished) Finished later (last minute recording/mixing) Released? (on...)
"Knock-down Drag-out" 12/27/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Don't Let Go" 12/27/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Knock-down Drag-out" 12/28/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Don't Let Go" 12/28/00 yes yes Green Album
"Cryin' and Lonely" 12/28/00 no no yes not quite unreleased
"Break Up" 12/28/00 ­ ­ ­ ­
"Gimmie Some Love" ("Simple Pages") 12/28/00 yes yes ­ ­ Green Album
"Homely" 12/28/00 ­ ­ ­ ­
"Island in the Sun" 12/29/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Starlight" 12/29/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Hash Pipe" 12/29/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Oh Lisa" 12/29/00 yes yes ­ ­ "Hash Pipe" import single
"O Girlfriend" 12/29/00 no ­ ­ ­
"My Best Friends" ("Brightening Day") 12/29/00 no no no yes (mixed by Jack Joseph Puig) "Island in the Sun" import single (UK)
"Crab" 12/29/00 no ­ ­ ­
"If You Want It" ("Photograph") 12/29/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Island in the Sun" 12/30/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Hash Pipe" 12/30/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Crab" 12/30/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Inside a Smile" ("Smile") 12/30/00 yes yes ­ ­ Green Album
"Teenage Victory Song" 12/30/00 no ­ ­ ­
"Sugar Booger" 12/30/00 yes yes "Hash Pipe" import single
"Island in the Sun" 01/01/01 yes yes ­ ­ Green Album
"O Girlfriend" 01/01/01 no ­ ­ ­
"Hash Pipe" 01/01/01 no ­ ­ ­
"No More Disappointments" 01/01/01 no ­ ­ ­
"If You Want It" ("Photograph") 01/01/01 yes yes ­ ­ Green Album
"Crab" 01/01/01 no ­ ­ ­
"No More Disappointments" 01/02/01 no no yes not quite unreleased
"O Girlfriend" 01/02/01 yes yes ­ ­ Green Album
"Hash Pipe" 01/02/01 yes yes (at first, then they changed their mind) yes (L.A. session 2/16­17) Green Album
"Knock-down Drag-out" 01/02/01 yes yes ­ ­ Green Album
"Crab" 01/02/01 yes yes ­ ­ Green Album
"Always" 01/02/01 (strings added 1/20 by David Campbell trio yes no ­ yes (by Tom Lord Alge) (remixed at correct length 10/13 by Jack Joseph Puig) "Island in the Sun" import single (original incorrect version)
"Starlight" 01/03/01 ­ ­ ­ ­
"Break­Up" 01/03/01 no no yes not quite unreleased
"Teenage Victory Song" 01/03/01 yes yes ­ ­ "Hash Pipe" import single
"Homely" 01/03/01 no no yes not quite unreleased
"Starlight" 01/05/01 yes yes ­ ­ "Hash Pipe" import single
"Gonna Make My Move" ("Glorious Day") 01/06/01 yes yes ­ ­ Green Album
"Always" 01/07/01with farfisa plus full band no ­ ­ ­
untitled ("I Do") 01/17/01 different studio yes no no yes (mixed by Jack Joseph Puig) "Hash Pipe" US B­side, Japan Green Album

Beyond the Green Album: Demos and Live Boots, 2001

2001 can be remembered as the year weezer bootlegging really exploded. Virtually every show the band played in 2001 exists in some recorded audio and/or video format, most of which were in the public domain via audience bootlegs. In addition Karl kept up the tradition of videotaping most or all of every show (besides the April Japan shows which he was not present for). Short 1-2 minute long capsule mpeg clips from each show of the Feb/March Outloud Tour were made available on the weezer.com site. By fall 2001, the band was putting up its very own "bootlegs", mp3 audio from recent shows and demo sessions. This combined with the "filesharing frenzy" already in progress across the net made for an extremely fruitful and exciting year for downloaders.

As such, it can be assumed that nearly every live weezer performance from this point on exists online and/or in the hands of traders somewhere (often in multiple versions from different recording sources even!), and that which is not publicly online, is usually at least in the bands own archives from their private soundboard recordings during soundchecks and shows.

Whats listed here are actual studio demos and some live shows listed due to high quality band recordings and audience bootlegs having been confirmed.

Feb/March 2001:Outloud Tour

Band soundboard recordings exist for all shows, in multitrack DA-88 format. Also Karl videotapes (not every song of every show however). And numerous audience bootlegs exist as well.

02/21/01 - live show audience bootleg - Austin, TX - Austin Music Hall

details unknown

02/22/01 - live show audience bootleg - Houston, TX - Arial Theater

details unknown

2/24/01: Florida Demo

In the middle of the Outloud Tour, Rivers went into Ft Lauderdale's LoConto Studios and cut some demos solo, just working out some of the new songs he was starting to come up with. These recordings are characterized with some very hokey down home arrangements that were not "rockin'". They were pretty experimental, and limited by the small range of equipment at hand and a lack of time. So Rivers just had fun with it and didnt sweat the details too hard.

02/25/01 - live show audience bootleg - Ft. Lauderdale, FL

details unknown

03/03/01 - live show audience bootleg - Philadelphia, PA - The Electric Factory

details unknown

03/04/01 - live show audience bootleg - Lowell, MA - Lowell Memorial Auditorium

details unknown

03/05/01 - live show audience bootleg - New York, NY - Roseland

details unknown

3/7/01: Detroit Demo

On another day off during the Outloud Tour, Rivers once again slipped into a small recording studio and got busy. Similar vibe to the Ft. Lauderdale demo.

03/10/01 - live show audience bootleg - Milwaukee, WI - Eagles Ballroom

details unknown

03/17/01 - live show audience bootleg - San Fransisco, CA - Bill Graham Civic Auditorium

details unknown

4/01: Japan Tour Shows

These shows are significant in that the band played "Butterfly" live for the first time since 1997, and that this/these "Butterfly"s were full band and electric! Mp3s of all songs from several of the Japan shows originated from a Japanese fan bootleg website. There may be band soundboard recordings of these shows as well.

  • 04/17/01 Nagoya, Japan - Diamond Hall (details unknown)
  • 04/20/01 Osaka, Japan - Zepp Hall (details unknown)

5+6/01: The Hooptie Tour

Band soundboard recordings exist for all shows, in multitrack DA-88 format. Also Karl videotaped the shows (not every song of every show however). And some audience bootlegs exist as well.

05/08/01 Live show audience bootleg - San Diego, CA - 91X Weezerbowl

(details unknown)

5/19/01 Saturday Night Live

both played live to air

5/20/01 Live show - Radio broadcast - St Louis, MO - Pointfest

This show was significant in that it was broadcast to air and the band debuted 5 new songs, which was the publics first exposure to post 'Green' material. bootlegs circulated of this material almost immediately. (tracklist unknown)

5/27/01: DC Demos

During the "Hooptie Tour", a day of studio time was booked at DC's small Monster Island Studios. A whopping 13 recordings were churned out, of which 10 were finished up. The purpose of the demos was to send some songs to some producers for the next album sessions, which where already loosely scheduled for late in 2001. As it turned out, the band eventually chose to go without an official producer. Several of these demos were released in mp3 format on weezer.com.(those are marked with an "(*)")

5/28/01 - live show taping for TV broadcast - Washington, DC "Weezer Convention"

This special show was taped by MTV and portions of were aired in the US and Europe on mtv 1/2 hr specials.

6/02/01 Mtv Movie Awards

  • "Hash Pipe" (played live, show taped for rebroadcast)

6/4/01: Y-100 Sonic Sessions (Hooptie Tour)

Live performance, taped and broadcast to air from the Blue Horizon, a classic old school boxing hall.

6/05/01 Conan O'Brien

6/6/01 NYC Rivers Session

Right before going to Europe, Rivers went into a studio to do a demo. Apparently he was asked by somebody in the Enrique Iglesias world if he wanted to submit a song for Enrique. The details of how all this came about are unclear, and it is known that the song was not used by Enrique. Two takes (one incomplete) of "A Dio" were recorded at an unknown Manhattan studio. Rivers commented at the time that there wasnt enough time to get the song down properly, so he doubted the demo was together enough to be considered for Enriques next album. And apparently he was right.

  • "A Dio" (2 takes, one incomplete)

06/08/01 Toronto, ON @ The Island Club

"Annoying people can be heard throughout" acc to bootleg sites

6/10/01 London T4 show

6/12/01 London Pepsi Chart

6/13/01 BBC Radio 1 Session

BBC evening sessions. Normally your'e supposed to do 4 tracks that were on your album, but Weezer insisted on doing all new material, and doing twice as much as required! These 4 were completed and were aired on BBC radio:

these 4 were started but not finished till 7/9/01 in LA. They were not broadcast.

06/16/01 - live show - audience bootleg - Sweden - Hultsfred Festival

details unknown

06/19/01 - live show - audience bootleg - Copenhagen, Denmark

details unknown

06/21/01 - live show - audience bootleg - Dortmund, Germany - Visions Party

details unknown
this show was also videotaped for a TV special for German TV.

06/26/01 - live show - audience bootleg - Paris, France - L' Elysee' Montmartre

details unknown

7/05/01 London Top Of The Pops

7/09/01: LA Session

Finish 4 BBC songs:

7/27/01 Late Night With Jay Leno

8/29 thru 9/8/01 Sage And Sound (SnS) demos

9/01 The Midget Tour

Band soundboard recordings exist for all shows, in DA-88 multitrack format. Also Karl videotapes (not every song of every show however). Numerous audience bootlegs exist as well.

09/20/01 - live show - audience recording - St Paul, MN @ Roy Wilkins Auditorium

details unknown

09/26/01 - live show - radio broadcast - Philadelphia, PA - The Spectrum

broadcast live by Y100, heavily traded/fileshared.

09/28/01 - live show - audience recording - Fairfax, VA

details unknown

10/21/01 through 11/10/01 Steak House/Cello demos

Interspersed with a bunch of shows and other business, a new set of album-preparing demos was recorded, starting at the Steakhouse studio, and concluding at Cello Studios. (Cello details below). As can be seen, a lot of work was done, which resulted in what was tenatively called weezers next album at the time. Indeed the final product was jokingly referred to as "The Black Album" on the rough cd's, a reference to Weezers 'color' albums and Metallica's and Princes "Black Albums" (Jay-Z's wasnt out yet). The final mixes do stand together as a 12 song album quite nicely, but work continued into 2002, eventually arriving at the bands 4th album Maladroit.

10/21/01 Instrumental rough mixes

  1. "Living Without You" (take 3)
  2. "Fall Together" (take 3)
  3. "Fall Together" (take 1)
  4. "Everybody Depends On A Friend" (take 4)
  5. "We Go Together" (take 5)
  6. "Do You Want Me To Stay?"(take 6)
  7. "Anything But Love" (take 3)

10/22/01 rough mixes

  1. "Everybody Depends On A Friend" (take 2)
  2. "Everybody Depends On A Friend" (take 3)
  3. "Everybody Depends On A Friend" (take 4)
  4. "Do You Want Me To Stay?" (take 5)
  5. "Do You Want Me To Stay?" (take 6)
  6. "Do You Want Me To Stay?" (take 7)
  7. "Change the World" (take 2)
  8. "Change the World" (take 5)
  9. "Diamond Rings" (take 2)
  10. "Diamond Rings" (take 3)
  11. "Diamond Rings" (take 4)

10/23/01 rough mixes 1

  1. "Change the World" (take 6)
  2. "So Low" (take 5)
  3. "The Dawn" (Take 4)
  4. "Your Room" (take 9)
  5. "Ain't Got Much Time" (take 5/6/4 edit)
  6. "Living Without You" (take 2)
  7. "Living Without You" (take 10)

10/23/01 rough mixes 2 (take #s unavail)

  1. "Diamond Rings"
  2. "Diamond Rings"
  3. "Diamond Rings"
  4. "So Low"
  5. "So Low"
  6. "Living Without You"
  7. "Living Without You"
  8. "Your Room"
  9. "Your Room"
  10. "Your Room"
  11. "Faith in the Light" (AKA "Everybody Depends On A Friend")
  12. "Faith in the Light" (AKA "Everybody Depends On A Friend")
  13. "Change the World"
  14. "Change the World"

10/24/01 "very" rough mixes

  1. "Diamond Rings" ("round 2")
  2. "Fall Together" ("round 2")
  3. "Everybody Depends On A Friend" ("round 2")
  4. "Living Without You" ("round 2")
  5. "My Weakness" ("round 1")
  6. "Change the World" ("round 3")
  7. "The Dawn" ("round 1")
  8. "So Low" ("round 1")
  9. "Ain't Got Much Time" ("round 1")
  10. "Do You Want Me to Stay?" ("round 1")
  11. "Your Room" ("round 1")
  12. "We Go Together" ("round 1")
  13. "Everybody Depends On A Friend" ("round 4")
  14. "Living Without You" ("round 3")
  15. "So Low" ("round 2")
  16. "Do You Want Me to Stay?" ("round 2")
  17. "Your Room" ("round 2")

10/25/01 rough mixes (take #'s unavail)

  1. "Diamond Rings"
  2. "Fall Together"
  3. "Faith in the Light" (AKA "Everybody Depends On A Friend")
  4. "Living Without You"
  5. "My Weakness"
  6. "Change the World"
  7. "The Dawn"
  8. "So Low"
  9. "Ain't Got Much Time"
  10. "Do You Want Me to Stay?"
  11. "Your Room"
  12. "We Go Together"
  13. "Fall Together"
  14. "Change the World"
  15. "The Dawn"
  16. "So Low"
  17. "Ain't Got Much Time"
  18. "We Go Together"
  19. "Do You Want Me to Stay?"
  20. "Do You Want Me to Stay?"
  21. "Your Room"
  22. "Your Room"

10/26/01 rough mixes (take #'s unavail)

  1. "Diamond Rings"
  2. "Fall Together"
  3. "Faith in the Light" (FKA "Everybody Depends On A Friend")
  4. "Living Without You"
  5. "My Weakness"
  6. "Change the World"
  7. "The Dawn"
  8. "So Low"
  9. "Ain't Got Much Time"
  10. "Do You Want Me To Stay?"
  11. "Your Room"
  12. "We Go Together"
  13. "Do You Want Me To Stay?"
  14. "Faith in the Light" (FKA "Everybody Depends On A Friend")
  15. "We Go Together"
  16. "We Go Together"

10/27(?)/01 "Final CD" rough mixes

  1. "Diamond Rings"
  2. "Fall Together"
  3. "Faith in the Light" (FKA "Everybody Depends On A Friend")
  4. "Living Without You"
  5. "My Weakness"
  6. "Change the World"
  7. "The Dawn"
  8. "So Low"
  9. "Ain't Got Much Time"
  10. "Do You Want Me To Stay?"
  11. "Your Room"
  12. "We Go Together"

continued info below in 11/02 Cello notes

10/24/01 Goat Punishment at the Knitting Factory - HBO Reverb

shot for TV, broadcast (in part) on HBO Reverb.

available tracks converted to audio bootlegs by fans.

11/02-05/01 Cello Demos (continues Steak House Demo sessions)

11/02/01 "Pre Cello CD - The Black Record Revisited"

  1. "Diamond Rings"
  2. "We Go Together"
  3. "Fall Together"
  4. "Faith in the Light" (FKA "Everybody Depends On A Friend")
  5. "Living Without You"
  6. "My Weakness"
  7. "Change the World"
  8. "The Dawn"
  9. "So Low"
  10. "Ain't Got Much Time"
  11. "Do You Want Me To Stay?"
  12. "Your Room"

11/03/01 Cello Sessions (VS. Steakhouse versions)

  1. "Diamond Rings" (Steakhouse)
  2. "We Go Together" (Cello)
  3. "Fall Together" (Cello)
  4. "Faith in the Light"(Cello)
  5. "Living Without You" (Cello)
  6. "My Weakness" (Steakhouse)
  7. "Change the World" (Steakhouse)
  8. "So Low" (Steakhouse)
  9. "The Dawn" (Cello)
  10. "Ain't Got Much Time" (Cello)
  11. "Do You Want Me To Stay?" (Steakhouse)
  12. "Your Room" (Steakhouse)
  13. "We Go Together" (Steakhouse)
  14. "We Go Together" (Cello) (unclear if same or new Cello version)
  15. "Fall Together" (Steakhouse)
  16. "Fall Together" (Cello) (unclear if same or new Cello version)
  17. "Faith in the Light" (Steakhouse)
  18. "Faith in the Light" (Cello) (unclear if same or new Cello version)
  19. "Living Without You" (Steakhouse)
  20. "Living Without You" (Cello) (unclear if same or new Cello version)
  21. "The Dawn" (Steakhouse)
  22. "The Dawn" (Cello) (unclear if same or new Cello version)
  23. "Ain't Got Much Time" (Steakhouse)
  24. "Ain't Got Much Time" (Cello) (unclear if same or new Cello version)
  25. "Your Room" (Steakhouse)
  26. "Your Room" (Cello) (unclear if same or new Cello version)

11/04/01 Cello Sessions 2 (Cello wins)

  1. "Diamond Rings" (Cello)
  2. "We Go Together" (Cello)
  3. "Fall Together" (Cello)
  4. "Faith in the Light"(Cello)
  5. "Living Without You" (Cello)
  6. "My Weakness" (Steakhouse)
  7. "Change the World" (Cello)
  8. "So Low" (Cello)
  9. "The Dawn" (Cello)
  10. "Ain't Got Much Time" (Cello)
  11. "Your Room" (Cello)

"alternates"

  1. "Diamond Rings" (Cello)
  2. "Fall Together" (Cello)
  3. "Faith in the Light"(Cello)
  4. "Living Without You" (Cello)
  5. "Change the World" (Cello)
  6. "So Low" (Cello)
  7. "The Dawn" (Cello)
  8. "Do You Want Me To Stay?" (Cello)


...demo (4th album) status as of 11/5 was:

title old title recording status cor
1. "My Weakness" on track to completion 338
2. "Change the World" redone on 11/4 316
3. "The Dawn" redone on 11/3 302
4. "Ain't Got Much Time" "Get Me On the Line" redone on 11/3 319
5. "We Go Together" redone on 11/3 289
6. "Fall Together" redone on 11/3 320
7. "Diamond Rings" "Anything But Love" redone on 11/4 291
8. "Your Room" redone on 11/4 304
9. "Living Without You" redone on 11/3 310
10. "So Low" "Take Back the Love" redone on 11/4 295
11. "Faith in the Light" "Everybody Depends On a Friend" redone on 11/4 294
12. "Do You Want Me to Stay?" redone on 11/4 293
13. "Cygnus X-1" "Smiths Jamb" unlikely to be finished during this session 346
14. "Place the Blame" "Space Rock" unlikely to be finished during this session 344
15. "As the Day Goes By" "Flat Tire" unlikely to be finished during this session 352
16. "I Wanna Be With You" "Spend Some Time" unlikely to be finished during this session 340
17. "C'mon Let's Go" "It's Only Rock n' Roll" unlikely to be finished during this session 325
18. "Slave" unlikely to be finished during this session 354


11/06/01: Goat Punishment at the Viper Room, LA

recorded via minidisc walkman by the band. Fair-Poor quality results.

11/07/01: Goat Punishment at the Viper Room, LA #2

band also managed to get a partial minidisc recording off the soundboard, but it sounded kinda bad.

11/08/01 Goat Punishment at the Viper Room, LA #3

band finally got a halfway decent soundboard recording; released as mp3:

11/09 thru 11/10/01 Cello Demos wrap up

final list of what was finished currently unavailable. Not much different than the chart above at 11/03.

11/14/01 Glenn Sound Demos

session done for 107.7 the end. When they didnt play the recordings, the band released them on the site. Has anyone yet heard these on the station?

11 and 12/01 The Extended Midget Tour

Band soundboard recordings exist for all shows, direct to CD-R format. Also Karl videotapes (not every song of every show however). Numerous audience bootlegs exist as well.
Also many soundchecks on this tour were recorded to CD-R for band reference.
The following is a list of mp3s that the band shared on weezer.com at the time:

"Your Room" - (304 - live in Portland 11/13/01)
"The Dawn" - (302 - live in Seattle 11/15/01)
"Faith in the Light"- (294 - live in Seattle 11/15/01)
"Fall Together" - (320 - live in Seattle 11/15/01)

"Faith in the Light" (294 - live in boise 11/17/01)
"Living Without You" (310 - live in san diego 11/20/01)
"Death and Destruction" (305 - live in san diego 11/20/01)

"Glorious Day (219 - Live long beach 11/24/01)
"Don't Let Go" (228 - live Long beach 11/24/01)
"Living Without You" (310 - live in Long Beach 11/24/01)
"The Dawn" (302 - live in long Beach 11/24/01)
"Fall Together" (320 - live in Long Beach 11/24/01)

"Change the World" (316 - live in Fort Worth 11/27/01)

"The Dawn" (302 - live St. Louis 11/29/01)
"Ain't Got Much Time" (319 - live St. Louis 11/29/01)
"Living Without You" (310 - live St. Louis 11/29/01)
"The Dawn" (302 - live Madison 12/02/01)
"Fall Together" (320 - live Madison 12/02/01)
"Island in the Sun" (live in Madison 12/02/01)
"Crab" (222 - live in Madison 12/02/01)
"Smile" (223 - live in Madison 12/02/01)
"Don't Let Go" (228 - live in Madison 12/02/01) (note: this version was played in a different key)

"Don't Let Go" (228 - live in Columbus 12/05/01)(note: diff. key again)
"Your Room" (304 - live in Columbus 12/05/01)
"Fall Together" (320- livein Columbus 12/05/01)
"Living Without You" (310 - live in Columbus 12/05/01)
"Change the World" (316 - live in Columbus 12/05/01)

"Keep Fishin'" (275 - live in Cleveland 12/08/01) (note: first time this was played since summer '01)
"Fall Together" (320 - live in Cleveland 12/08/01)
"Your Room" (304- live in Cleveland 12/08/01)
"Been in the Storm" (12/8/01 - live recording prior to the show)

"Photograph" (217 - live in Baltimore 12/09/01)
"Your Room" (1:56) (304 - live in Baltimore 12/09/01)
"Your Room" (2:35) (304 - live in Baltimore 12/09/01)
("Your Room" was initially released as edited down to 1:56, and soon therafter re-released in its original form)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 - live in Baltimore 12/09/01)
"Fall Together" (320 - live in Baltimore 12/09/01)
"Death and Destruction" (305 - live in Baltimore 12/09/01)

"Don't Let Go" (228 - live in Kalamazoo 12/06/01)
"Living Without You" (310 - live in Kalamazoo 12/06/01)
"Fall Together" (320 - live in Kalamazoo 12/06/01)
"The Dawn" (302 - live in Kalamazoo 12/06/01)

"Saturday Night" (280 - live in Portland, ME 12/11/01) (note: first time this was played since summer '01)

12/02/01 - live show audience bootleg - Madison, WI @ Alliant Energy Center

details unknown except bootleg sites note: "Decent quality. "Diamond Rings" played")

12/08/01 - live show audience bootleg - Cleveland, OH - CSU Convocation Center

  1. "Death and Destruction"
  2. "Island in the Sun"
  3. "In the Garage"
  4. "Your Room"
  5. "Crab"
  6. "Tired of Sex"
  7. "Keep Fishin'"
  8. "Smile"
  9. "My Name Is Jonas"
  10. "We Go Together" * see note below
  11. "Photograph"
  12. "Undone - The Sweater Song"
  13. "Living Without You"
  14. "Don't Let Go"
  15. "Say It Ain't So"
  16. "Hash Pipe"
  17. "Only in Dreams"
  18. "Buddy Holly"
  19. "Surf Wax America"

Note from a fan: "i was at the December 8th 2001 show in cleveland with my friend sean. "We Go Together" was not played as is listed on the bootleg tape but instead it was "Living Without You". i remember this clearly and also it is listed on the picture of the set list that is in the super crono. i remember the light show that went with "living.." and "Your Room" particularly with the latter. in addition to the songs listed there were also some creed "covers" that rivers sang (sometimes to the boo of the crowd) and as far as i know this was the first unveiling of scott to the fans in cleveland." - Michael Cornacchione

12/09/01 - live show audience bootleg - Baltimore, MD - Baltimore Arena

  1. "Death and Destruction"
  2. "Island in the Sun"
  3. "In the Garage"
  4. "Your Room"
  5. "Crab"
  6. "Tired of Sex"
  7. "Keep Fishin'"
  8. "Smile"
  9. "My Name Is Jonas"
  10. "Fall Together"
  11. "Photograph"
  12. "Undone - The Sweater Song"
  13. "Living Without You"
  14. "Don't Let Go"
  15. "Say It Ain't So"
  16. "Hash Pipe"
  17. "Only in Dreams"
  18. "Buddy Holly"
  19. "Surf Wax America"

12/10/01 Portland, ME: Nearly inaudible Weez/Tenacious D Jam

Unfortunatley, 90 percent of what would have been an outstanding jam session bootleg didnt come out. Spontaneous Jam at the Portland ME bar "The Skinny" with Rivers on drums, Pat on bass, and the "D" doing their thing. No videocameras nor recording devices were on hand, save a old school radio shack tape recorder that was sticky with old beer and dirt. Same goes for the crusty cassette tape that was dug up by the Skinny's owner. Sadly it was a terrible machine and the results were almost inaudible...

also note: tracks 1-7 were not recorded at all!

  1. "Just What I Needed" (The Cars)
  2. "Footloose" (Kenny Loggins) (Rivers sez: "Beard Rock!")
  3. "Love Me 2 Times" (The Doors)
  4. "Hot Blooded" (Foreigner)
  5. "Good Times, Bad Times" (Led Zeppelin)
  6. "5 o'clock this morning" (likely "Heart and Soul" by Huey Lewis and the News) thanks to Aidan B.!
  7. "More Than a Feeling" (Boston)
  8. "Sunshine of Your Love2 (Cream) (horrible tape started here)
  9. "Pinball Wizard2 (The Who)
  10. "Enter Sandman" (Metallica)
  11. "Don't Fear the Reaper" (Blue Oyster Cult)
  12. "Sister Christian" (Night Ranger) (Acappella only)
  13. "Crazy Train" (Ozzy Osbourne)
  14. "Something" (The Beatles) (this is the only track that is actually truly audible)
  15. "Highway to Hell" (AC/DC)
  16. "Smoke On the Water" (Deep Purple)
  17. "Golden Slumbers/The End" (Abby Road bits) (The Beatles)
  18. "Free Bird" (Lynyrd Skynyrd)

Maladroit Recording Sessions, Dec 2001 - Feb 2002

Recording: 12/16/01 thru 1/10/02
Overdubs/recording tidy up: 1/11/02 thru 1/12/02
Mixing/sequencing/last minute additions: 1/13/01 thru late Jan 2002
late addition (b-side/non USA album bonus track): April 2002

As the band recorded, they posted their progress as mp3s on the website, giving fans a nearly unprecidented look at the making of an album, and inspiring a healthy dialogue between the fans and the band via the various communication techniques afforded by the internet. The following is a list of the songs, mp3'd in progress, as they went up. This list is the most accurate possible look at the albums creation, as everything that was in contention was posted whenever it had significant changes made, and those songs that ended up not making the cut were left in their unfinished state that is represented by their last dated rough mix mp3.


"Mr. Taxman" (262 - recorded 12/17/01)
"American Gigolo" (281 - recorded 12/17/01)

"December" (286 - recorded 12/18/01)
"High Up Above" (278 - recorded 12/18/01)
"Listen Up" (273 - recorded 12/18/01)

"Better Off Alone" (disco cover experiment in the studio - recorded 12/18/01)
"American Gigolo" (281 - recored 12/19/01)
"Spend Some Time" (340 - recorded 12/19/01)
"How Long?" (296 - recorded 12/19/01)

"Dope Nose" (177 - recorded 12/20/01)
"Saturday Night" (280 - recorded 12/20/01)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 12/20/01)
"Your Room" (304 - recorded 12/20/01)

"Your Room" (304 - recorded 12/21/01)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 12/21/01)
"How Long?" (296 - recorded 12/21/01)
"Saturday Night" (280 - recorded 12/21/01)
"Spend Some Time" (340 - recorded 12/21/01)
"December" (286 - recorded 12/21/01)
"Listen Up" (273 - 12/21/01)

"Your Room" (304 - recorded 2001-12-22)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 -recorded 2001-12-22)
"How Long?" (296 - recorded 2001-12-22)
"American Gigolo" (281 - recorded 2001-12-22)
"Spend Some Time" (340 - recorded 2001-12-22)
"Saturday Night" (280 - recorded 2001-12-22)
"December" (286- recorded 2001-12-22)
"Possibilities" (314 - recorded 2001-12-22)
"Slave" (354 - recorded 2001-12-22)
"Listen Up" (273 - recorded 2001-12-22)

"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 2001-12-23)
"Serendipitous Jam" (325 - recorded 2001-12-22)

"Sandwiches Time" (317 - recorded 2001-12-28)
"Space Rock" (344 - recorded 2001-12-28)
"Take Control" (282 -recorded 2001-12-28)

"Your Room" (304 - recorded 2001-12-30)
"Keep Fishin'"(275 - recorded 2001-12-30)
"How Long?" (296 - recorded 2001-12-30)
"American Gigolo" (281 - recorded 2001-12-30)
"Possibilities" (314 - recorded 2001-12-30)

"Listen Up" (273 - recorded 2001-12-31)
"American Gigolo" (281 - recorded 2002-01-01)
"Porcupine" (340 - recorded 2002-01-02)
"Sandwiches Time" (317 - recorded 2002-01-02)
"Dope Nose" (177 - recorded 2002-01-02)
"December" (286 - recorded 2002-01-02)
"Slave" (354 - recorded 2002-01-02)
"Your Room" (304 - recorded 2002-01-02)
"Take Control" (282 - recorded 2002-01-02)
"Big Chip" (303 - recorded 2002-01-02)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 2002-01-03)
"American Gigolo" (281 - recorded 2002-01-03)
"Mr. Taxman" (262 - recorded 2002-01-03)
"Broken Arrows" (297 - recorded 2002-01-03)
"Take Control" (282 - recorded 2002-01-03)

"Broken Arrows" (297 - recorded 2002-01-04)
"Dope Nose" (177 - recorded 2002-01-04)
"Sandwiches Time" (317 - recorded 2002-01-02)
"Take Control" (282 - recorded 2002-01-04)
"Don't Pick On Me" (303 - recorded 2002-01-04)
"Slave" (354 - recorded 2002-01-04)
"Possibilities" (314 - recorded 2002-01-04)
"December" (286 - recorded 2002-01-02)

"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 2002-01-05)
"How Long?" (296 - recorded 2002-01-05)
"Death and Destruction" (305 - recorded 2002-01-05)
"Take Control" (282 - recorded 2002-01-05)
"Slave" (354 - recorded 2002-01-05)
"December" (286 - recorded 2002-01-05)
"Fall Together" 1/5 *missing from original notes, but does exist
"Keep Fishin'" (275 recorded 2002-01-06)
"American Gigolo" (281 recorded 2002-01-03)
"Porcupine" (340 recorded 2002-01-06)
"Take Control" (282 recorded 2002-01-06)
"December" (286 recorded 2002-01-06)
"Fall Together"" (320 recorded 2002-01-06)

"Space Rock" (344 recorded 2002-01-07)
"Mr. Taxman" (262 recorded 2002-01-07)
"Listen Up"(273 recorded 2002-01-07)
"Living Without You" (310 recorded 2002-01-07)
"Dope Nose" (177 recorded 2002-01-07)
"Death and Destruction" (305 recorded 2002-01-07)

"Take Control" (282 recorded 2002-01-08)
"Space Rock" (344 recorded 2002-01-08)
"Living Without You" (310 recorded 2002-01-08)
"Change the World" (316 recorded 2002-01-08)
"Love Explosion" (293 recorded 2002-01-08)
"Burndt Jamb" (277 recorded 2002-01-08)
"Don't Pick On Me" (303 recorded 2002-01-08)

"Serendipity" (325 recorded 2002-01-09)
"Don't Pick On Me" (303 -recorded 2002-01-09)
"Love Explosion" (293 - recorded 2002-01-09)
"Change the World" (316 - recorded 2002-01-09) * does not exist?
"Seafaring Jamb" (338 - recorded 2002-01-09)
"Acapulco" (284 - recorded 2002-01-09)
"Zep Jamb" (285 - recorded 2002-01-09)

"Burndt Jamb" (277 - recorded 2002-01-10)
"Space Rock" (344 - recorded 2002-01-10)
"We Go Together" (289 - recorded 2002-01-10)
"Slob" (188 - recorded 2002-01-10)
"Living Without You"" (310 - recorded 2002-01-10)
"Serendipity" (325 - recorded 2002-01-10)
"Love Explosion" (293 - recorded 2002-01-10)
"Seafaring Jamb" 1/10 *missing from original notes, but does exist

"Acapulco" (284 - recorded 2002-01-11)
"Burndt Jamb" (277 - recorded 2002-01-11)
"Change the World" (316 - recorded 2002-01-11)
"Serendipity" (325 - recorded 2002-01-11)
"Death and Destruction" (305 - recorded 2002-01-11)

"American Gigolo" (281 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Dope Nose" (177 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Death and Destruction"" (305 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Slave" (354 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Living Without You" (310 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Space Rock" (344 recorded 2002-01-12)
"Take Control" (282 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"December" (286 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Seafaring Jamb" (338 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Love Explosion" (293 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Your Room" (304 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Death and Destruction" (305 - recorded 2002-01-12)
"Fall Together" 1/12 *missing from original notes, but does exist


"Take Control" 1/15 *missing from original notes, but does exist

"Dope Nose" (177 - recorded 2002-01-16)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 2002-01-17)
"American Gigolo" (281 - recorded 2002-01-20)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 2002-01-20)
"Fall Together" (320 - recorded 2002-01-21)
"American Gigolo" (281 - recorded 2002-01-21)
"Fall Together" (320 - recorded 2002-01-22)
"Possibilities" (314 - recorded 2002-01-22)
"December" (286 - recorded 2002-01-23)
"Possibilities" (314 - recorded 2002-01-23)
"December" (286 - recorded 2002-01-24)
"Space Rock" (344 - recorded 2002-01-24)
"Space Rock" (344 - recorded 2002-01-25)
"Slave" (354 - recorded 2002-01-26)
"Dope Nose" (177 - recorded 2002-02-03)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 2002-02-11)
"Dope Nose" (177 - recorded 2002-02-11)
"Keep Fishin'" (275 - recorded 2002-02-13)
"Dope Nose" (177 - recorded 2002-02-13)

"Living Without You" (310 - recorded 2002-04-02)



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